I5 12500T with LGA1700MB

[Tauri]

Hi all, I bought a i5 12500T CPU to build a PC. Long story short, the person I bought it from did not mention that this CPU can only be used in Form factor PC's and made me believe I am buying a standard 12th Gen CPU. I was basically scammed but not blaming the scammer entirely, I should have done my homework first before I bought it. Now I am stuck with this CPU and I don't want all the money I spent on it go wasted. Am I correct in saying that this CPU cannot be used in just any LGA 1700? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[Petester]

It is a 35W part but can run fine in any LGA1700 Motherboard.
It's performance is limited but still performs decently, as it can hit 74W ensuring decent performance .

 

[Petester]

Still if you were not told it was a "T" version then that needs to be resolved with the seller

 

[goldfritter]

Hi all, I bought a i5 12500T CPU to build a PC. Long story short, the person I bought it from did not mention that this CPU can only be used in Form factor PC's and made me believe I am buying a standard 12th Gen CPU.

What is a "form factor" PC?

I was basically scammed but not blaming the scammer entirely, I should have done my homework first before I bought it. Now I am stuck with this CPU and I don't want all the money I spent on it go wasted. Am I correct in saying that this CPU cannot be used in just any LGA 1700? Any advice would be appreciated.

An easy way to check if it will work in a specific motherboard is to go to the motherboard manufacturer's product page for that board and check its CPU compatibility list.

E.g. here is a list of CPUs compatible with a standard consumer Z790 LGA1700 board. The 12500T is on the list.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=8555

Was it a Carbonite deal?

 

[Tauri]

Tx Carb fam for the help, I feel a bit better now.

 

[Tauri]

What is a "form factor" PC?


An easy way to check if it will work in a specific motherboard is to go to the motherboard manufacturer's product page for that board and check its CPU compatibility list.

E.g. here is a list of CPUs compatible with a standard consumer Z790 LGA1700 board. The 12500T is on the list.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=8555

Was it a Carbonite deal?

No, it was on FB Market.

 

[limadelta26]

@Tauri from my personal experience, I prefer the T series chips due to their much lower TDP. Yes you do loose overclock abilities (unless you try some God level BIOS modding - I have seen it done before but very very difficult to get right)

So on a TDP level, only worrying about 35W TDP allows much more room for a GPU on a smaller wattage PSU (Keep to 80 PLUS standard here for additional efficiency)

If I go on my system specs i5 7500T vs a normal 7500 there is about a 4% drop only between the two on average across a range of applications and games. So in the case of my build being restricted by the PSU I have, 4% is nothing in reality.

 

[Tauri]

@Tauri from my personal experience, I prefer the T series chips due to their much lower TDP. Yes you do loose overclock abilities (unless you try some God level BIOS modding - I have seen it done before but very very difficult to get right)

So on a TDP level, only worrying about 35W TDP allows much more room for a GPU on a smaller wattage PSU (Keep to 80 PLUS standard here for additional efficiency)

If I go on my system specs i5 7500T vs a normal 7500 there is about a 4% drop only between the two on average across a range of applications and games. So in the case of my build being restricted by the PSU I have, 4% is nothing in reality.

I am not very technical when it comes to PC builds but I know the basics of how to put it togethe,lol.

When you say I must keep it to 80Plus, what does that mean? Sorry for the silly question.

 

[goldfritter]

I am not very technical when it comes to PC builds but I know the basics of how to put it togethe,lol.

When you say I must keep it to 80Plus, what does that mean? Sorry for the silly question.

80 Plus is an efficiency rating for PSUs. There are different grades of 80 Plus. The lowest is technically White. Bronze, Gold, Platinum etc. are all variations of 80 Plus certification. So when you see a PSU is rated as Gold efficiency, for example, the full certification is 80 Plus Gold.

Pretty much every PSU sold nowadays is 80 Plus certified, whether from a reputable brand or not. Unfortunately it isn't really a reliable indication of quality, as even quite dodgy PSUs can be Gold certified. It just means the PSU is efficient, i.e. it doesn't waste a lot of electricity when powering your PC.

 

[HolyCowImAnoOb]

Hi all, I bought a i5 12500T CPU to build a PC. Long story short, the person I bought it from did not mention that this CPU can only be used in Form factor PC's and made me believe I am buying a standard 12th Gen CPU. I was basically scammed but not blaming the scammer entirely, I should have done my homework first before I bought it. Now I am stuck with this CPU and I don't want all the money I spent on it go wasted. Am I correct in saying that this CPU cannot be used in just any LGA 1700? Any advice would be appreciated.

I recall seeing some articles a while back that i cant find for the life of me.

Some OEM systems like lenovo/dell/fujitsu tie the cpu to the mobo, so you cant use it anywhere else.

It needs to be on a same same brand/make motherboard to work. Get a refund from the guy.

 

[Petester]

I recall seeing some articles a while back that i cant find for the life of me.

Some OEM systems like lenovo/dell/fujitsu tie the cpu to the mobo, so you cant use it anywhere else.

It needs to be on a same same brand/make motherboard to work. Get a refund from the guy.

I've used 12500T CPU's on all the various brand name boards and had no issues. They were all out of pre-builds, so he should be fine.

 

[limadelta26]

80 Plus is an efficiency rating for PSUs. There are different grades of 80 Plus. The lowest is technically White. Bronze, Gold, Platinum etc. are all variations of 80 Plus certification. So when you see a PSU is rated as Gold efficiency, for example, the full certification is 80 Plus Gold.

Pretty much every PSU sold nowadays is 80 Plus certified, whether from a reputable brand or not. Unfortunately it isn't really a reliable indication of quality, as even quite dodgy PSUs can be Gold certified. It just means the PSU is efficient, i.e. it doesn't waste a lot of electricity when powering your PC.

@Tauri

@goldfritter is correct with PSU's being labelled as 80Plus without it being legit. For this you can reference a PSU with 80Plus themselves so its not on their database of PSU's its not a real 80Plus. Here is a quick link to check it out: 80 PLUS®. PSU Certification Program | CLEAResult

I recall seeing some articles a while back that i cant find for the life of me.

Some OEM systems like lenovo/dell/fujitsu tie the cpu to the mobo, so you cant use it anywhere else.

It needs to be on a same same brand/make motherboard to work. Get a refund from the guy.

As @HolyCowImAnoOb said, some CPU's are tied to the board but in my experience I have found it to be more of the board that is locked to certain SKU's of a CPU make / model and this is definitely true for "Office PC's" and Server Blades most of the time.

But then also as @Petester said, and I agree with him here, that CPU shouldn't give you any compatibility issues on normal retail boards.

On of the main things that is nice about the T series chips being much lower TPD you can get a way with a much smaller CPU cooler (some of those nice ID cooling or Noctua low profile coolers) and then that allows you to push the case size down to 1U for example if you want a slim build.

For example, if you go for mITX in a 1U rack chassis, you can get a way with using a PCIe Riser and have the GPU next to the motherboard instead (Linus did a vid recently on a wall mount PC - AKA "The Humble PC" ) or if you do a super small build like SFF for example, having the smaller CPU cooler with the GPU on a riser cable it makes it easier to use something like the Fractal Terra or Fractal Ridge chassis

 

[Tauri]

Update,

Just received all my other components from wootware. MB, Nvme 1T and case. Slapped all the components in, i5 12500T, 1080TI, 650WPSU and 32Gids of RAM. Was excited to see that everything tuned on, except, no screen and then the system reboots itself after 45seconds. I made sure there are no loose connections. Sadly looks like the i5 12500T could be the culprit. When I take the CPU out the system seem to be stable. The minute I put in the CPU back, the system loops. Never buyings things from FB market again.